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Gastropod – Like Water in the Desert

Over the past century, we’ve transformed the arid lands of the American west into year-round, well-irrigated agricultural powerhouses. Today, fruits, nuts, and nearly all of our leafy greens are grown in the desert, using water diverted, stored, and supplied at taxpayer expense. This intense irrigation is having an impact: Reservoir levels are dropping, rivers are drying up, and the state of Arizona is literally sinking. With the help of agroecologist Gary Nabhan, farmers Ramona and Terry Button, and others in the region, we ask the big questions: Should we be farming in the desert? What would a water-saving system even look like? And does a tiny bean that smells like desert rain hold the secret to survival in a hotter, drier world?

Conventional farmland in Maricopa County, AZ

Episode Notes

Brad Lancaster

Brad Lancaster is a permaculture designer known for his work in rainwater harvesting and water management. After years of covertly cutting curbs to redirect rainwater, Brad convinced the city of Tucson to pass an ordinance requiring new street projects to do the same. Brad is the co-founder of Neighborhood Foresters and Desert Harvesters and author of Rainwater Harvesting for Drylands and Beyond.

The Button Family and Ramona Farms

Ramona and Terry Button have been farming in the Gila River Basin since 1974, on the ancestral land of Ramona’s people, the Akimel O’odham. Through decades of work, they’ve helped revive the tepary bean and reintroduce it to the community. Their eldest daughter, Brandy Button, is a chef who travels with the family to schools and community centers teaching people about traditional Native American foods.

White tepary beans, or Stotoah bavi, from Ramona Farms

Gary Nabhan and The Nature of Desert Nature

Gary Nabhan is a desert agroecologist celebrated for his work on the biodiversity and cultural diversity of the arid Southwest. He is a recipient of the MacArthur “Genius Grant” and author of 26 books, including Mesquite: An Arboreal Love Affair, and most recently, The Nature of Desert Nature. Gary co-founded the non-profit Native Seeds/SEARCH, which preserves and distributes indigenous seeds, and he tends a farm and orchard of desert-adapted fruit trees in Patagonia, Arizona.

Sterling Johnson, Nina Sajovec, and the Ajo Center for Sustainable Agriculture

Sterling Johnson and Nina Sajovec are partners who run the Ajo Center for Sustainable Agriculture. Sterling is a member of the Tohono O’odham nation and Ajo farm manager. Nina is the founder and executive director. Through the Ajo CSA, they preserve agriculture traditions like ak-chin irrigation, teach community members about traditional crops, and run a food pantry and farmer’s market.

Erick Meza and Las Milpitas

Erick Meza is the farm education coordinator at Las Milpitas Community Farm, a six-acre space for residents of Tucson on the banks of the Santa Cruz River. Erick’s immersion in desert agriculture started by accident with a small compost pile, which grew into an interest in permaculture and rainwater harvesting. Las Milpitas offers garden plots, supplies, and educational workshops at no cost to low-income families.

Sonja Swanson

Sonja Swanson is our fabulous Gastropod fellow; she pitched this episode as part of her application for the fellowship. She lives in the Mojave Desert in Las Vegas, writes about food and culture, and was a 2019 recipient of the UC Berkeley Food and Farming Journalism fellowship.

Abe Sanchez and the Chia Café Collective

Abe Sanchez is a founding member of the Chia Café Collective and co-publisher of Cooking the Native Way, a book of essays and recipes exploring the Native cuisines of Southern California.

Tilia Klebenov Jacobs

Tilia Klebenov Jacobs is the super generous Gastropod listener who helped fund our reporting for this episode. She’s also an award-winning writer and the author of two crime novels and one middle-grade fantasy book. Check out her books here!

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